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Topic: Edmonton Points Question

Author: Will Original Message Posted: Apr 4 2010 4:59PM

Ok, I have been looking through the points system that we have. I know I have made modifications before, and I understand that having a consistency to the points is important. That said I think I have found a way to improve our points system, but I want to know what everyone else thinks.

Currently, when any new player shows up, they start at 900 points. I can adjust that so that every new player that shows up starts at 800 points instead... The lowest that you can go in points is 800. I think it is an improvement because players that only show up one time or two times do not end up with 900 + points, where as players that have come a lot and not won consistantly end up stuck around 800. If new players started at the bottom they would never just start dropping through the ranks, and they would have more incentive to keep coming out to move up.

To explain this better I will post one with our current points, and one with the 800 base point modification.

Some examples:
Christoff has played in 2 or maybe 3 events. Under the current points he has 903 points which puts him at 17th in the list. With the 800 point modification he has 832 and would have moved up each week that he won games. He places about 25th under those.

In the current points Albert So has 979 points, and is in the top 10. With the points modification he has 895 and ranks 14th.

Karli under our current points has 909, under the modified one she has 810.

The top 8 players dont change in any way except for the number of points each player has. Each player in the entire system has less points because there are just less total points to go around. The order is still exactly the same at the top, but the players near the bottom are effected more. Instead of having a new player walk in and have 100 more points than our rookie players, they walk in with the same amount of points.

I want to get peoples opinions of what I should do here. Change to the "Modified" version, or stick with the "Current" system. I will take everyones opinion into conisderation and I just want to know if someone can see that I have missed anything?


Author: Will Reply #1 Posted: Apr 4 2010 4:59PM

Current Points:
Dunn, Christian 1412
Edwards, Simon 1304
Lawrence, Shane 1285
Penner, Roger 1251
Stranks, Will 1239
Burgardt, Garry 1212
McDonald, Tom 1183
Wilkins, Ben 1080
Kerr, Chris 1025
So, Albert 979
Luft, Carey 977
Rupertus, Lindsey 973
Myszczyszyn, Tobin 944
Scaife, Darcy 910
Schiebelbein, Karli 909
Wong, Felix 906
Ejakovic, Christoff 903
Smithson, Justin 903
Humberstone, Paul 896
Jordan, Darren 890
Simeon, Jamie 886
Hasiuk, Jody 884
Daly, Ritchie 877
Hopfner, Jordan 872
Johnston, Mike 870
Spencer, Chad 864
Mothersell, Scott 863
Kimber, Daniel 858
Tse, Desmond 854
Hewson, Craig 851
Macdonald, Jon 841
Gibson, katy 823
Volkman, Dallyn 816
x, Tanveer 804
Jamerson, Rick 804
Wilkins, Sam 804
Lehman, Blair 800
Campbell, Carmen 800
Nasir, Uzair 800



Author: Will Reply #2 Posted: Apr 4 2010 5:00PM

Modified Points:
Dunn, Christian 1353
Edwards, Simon 1246
Lawrence, Shane 1228
Penner, Roger 1188
Stranks, Will 1180
Burgardt, Garry 1161
McDonald, Tom 1121
Wilkins, Ben 1023
Kerr, Chris 977
Luft, Carey 924
Rupertus, Lindsey 918
Myszczyszyn, Tobin 909
Scaife, Darcy 896
So, Albert 895
Hasiuk, Jody 875
Simeon, Jamie 875
Humberstone, Paul 871
Tse, Desmond 853
Spencer, Chad 849
Smithson, Justin 835
Ejakovic, Christoff 832
Johnston, Mike 825
Moir, Zak 824
Daly, Ritchie 819
Gibson, katy 816
Schiebelbein, Karli 810
Hopfner, Jordan 806
Volkman, Dallyn 804
Wilkins, Sam 800
Mothersell, Scott 800
Jordan, Desmond 800
Lehman, Blair 800
Jamerson, Rick 800
Kimber, Daniel 800
Nasir, Uzair 800


Author: Will Reply #3 Posted: Apr 4 2010 5:09PM

Here is a list that is not modified. I normally delete out the players that have never played on Tuesday and the inactive players:
Current Points:
Dunn, Christian No Data No Data 1412 1412 1430/901
Edwards, Simon No Data No Data 1304 1304 1304/901
Lawrence, Shane No Data No Data 1285 1285 1306/916
Penner, Roger No Data No Data 1251 1251 1280/916
Stranks, Will No Data No Data 1239 1239 1307/904
Burgardt, Garry No Data No Data 1212 1212 1264/901
McDonald, Tom No Data No Data 1183 1183 1209/917
Wilkins, Ben No Data No Data 1080 1080 1112/830
Kerr, Chris No Data No Data 1025 1025 1049/814
Demelo, Ivor No Data No Data 997 997 1007/917
So, Albert No Data No Data 979 979 1033/900
Luft, Carey No Data No Data 977 977 1037/886
Rupertus, Lindsey No Data No Data 973 973 1029/885
X, Jeff No Data No Data 971 971 984/922
Dick, Matt No Data No Data 968 968 989/902
Goodman, Eric No Data No Data 964 964 964/910
Kippen, Rick No Data No Data 962 962 984/900
Campbell, Lance No Data No Data 957 957 985/880
Karmis, Pete No Data No Data 953 953 966/888
Karmis, Ang No Data No Data 953 953 966/888
Myszczyszyn, Tobin No Data No Data 944 944 962/800
Kelly, Brad No Data No Data 943 943 957/897
Trynchuk, Dale No Data No Data 938 938 949/858
Green, James No Data No Data 936 936 951/884
Deeg, Phil No Data No Data 929 929 955/872
Scaife, Darcy No Data No Data 910 910 940/803
Schiebelbein, Karli No Data No Data 909 909 927/900
Wong, Felix No Data No Data 906 906 931/906
Ejakovic, Christoff No Data No Data 903 903 927/874
Smithson, Justin No Data No Data 903 903 975/877
Coloma, Mike No Data No Data 900 900 916/900
Ahn, Dave No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Farries, Kent No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Tran, Nhu No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Szeto, Nelson No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Andrabe, Richard No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Ginn, Doug No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Phuong, Dylan No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Willick, Barry No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Archibald, Ted No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Glubish, Rae Ann No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
y, Steve No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Hood, Jack No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
X, Donald No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Popowich, Darrel No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Chan, Willie No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
x, Garret No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Udell, Andy No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Kehoe, Eric No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Ginn, Dawnella No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Duarte, Phil No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Duarte, Jacob No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Barth, Charlie No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Ramjag, Joseph No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Chanta, Ban No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Wilkins, Ezra No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Styranko, Reid No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Van Melle, Nathan No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Rondeau, Chris No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Ustina, Greg No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Williams, Craig No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Moore, Ryan No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Coleman, Moraya No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Kwak, John No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Wilkins, Carrie No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Dunn, Eric No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Clark, John No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Rodriguez, Orlando No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Perumal, Ramu No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Botros, Matt No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Allen, Greg No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Pauette, Andre No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Jordan, Desmond No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Leoppky, Brian No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Lishinman, Jeff No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Phan, Tuan No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Ly, Linda No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Demello, Chris No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
x, Joel No Data No Data 9


Author: Will Reply #4 Posted: Apr 4 2010 5:09PM

Continued Current Points:
Lee, Sean No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Burnett, Sean No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Striefel, Nathan No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Brodt, Danny No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
X, Roman No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Wilkins, Isaiah No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Rondeau, Tina No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
x, Ian No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Wilkins, Malachi No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Iannuzzi, Mario No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Xs, Steve No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Freznel, Jordan No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Yeoung, James No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Elford, Jason No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Wilson, Tim No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Summerville, Dan No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
X, Lorne No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Wong, Joshua No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Tavares, Hugo No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Gee, Paul No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Tong, Tony No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Gabriel, Kane No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Evers, Martin No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Stoyko, Scott No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Chin, Anthony No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
M, Judah No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Ennis, Mark No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Wilkins, Brad No Data No Data 900 900 900/900
Spredeman, Tony No Data No Data 900 900 0/0
Faulkner, Stephanii No Data No Data 898 898 916/878
Moir, Zak No Data No Data 897 897 935/868
Humberstone, Paul No Data No Data 896 896 955/810
x, Mike No Data No Data 894 894 904/887
Nielsen, Shane No Data No Data 892 892 907/891
Jordan, Darren No Data No Data 890 890 922/890
Carson, Albert No Data No Data 889 889 925/889
C, Erek No Data No Data 889 889 900/884
King, Ryan No Data No Data 888 888 907/888
Alliyne, Ian No Data No Data 887 887 896/887
Simeon, Jamie No Data No Data 886 886 972/802
O''Stream, Don No Data No Data 885 885 906/883
X, Gerald No Data No Data 884 884 911/878
Hasiuk, Jody No Data No Data 884 884 889/800
Crawford, Adam No Data No Data 883 883 909/883
Wood, Greg No Data No Data 882 882 941/853
Siltannin, Jenna No Data No Data 880 880 890/880
Cockburn, Becky No Data No Data 879 879 894/879
karimi, nima No Data No Data 879 879 894/879
X, Todd No Data No Data 877 877 895/877
Daly, Ritchie No Data No Data 877 877 914/858
Bennett, Doug No Data No Data 877 877 901/876
Haynes, Tyler No Data No Data 876 876 892/876
Haynes, Travis No Data No Data 876 876 892/876
Learn, Kasper No Data No Data 876 876 896/876
Cabay, Codie No Data No Data 876 876 917/876
Roberts, Noel No Data No Data 875 875 889/875
xs, extra No Data No Data 875 875 921/875
Baayens, Dean No Data No Data 874 874 914/873
Delorne, Dan No Data No Data 873 873 917/873
Learn, Jason No Data No Data 873 873 889/873
X, Lee No Data No Data 873 873 885/873
DaPonte, Paul No Data No Data 873 873 889/873
Hopfner, Jordan No Data No Data 872 872 885/868
Gakwerere, David No Data No Data 872 872 890/872
Nielsen, Josh No Data No Data 872 872 892/872
spencer, jay No Data No Data 872 872 914/872
Chornohos, Curtis No Data No Data 872 872 886/872
Johnston, Mike No Data No Data 870 870 1014/819
Sereda, Nikki No Data No Data 869 869 882/869
Volkman, Alanna No Data No Data 869 869 889/869
Hodinski, Jasmine No Data No Data 869 869 889/869
Cooke, Drew No Data No Data 868 868 884/868
Park, Gordon No Data No Data 868 868 884/868
Dubray, Liz No Data No Data 868 868 884/868
Mayoski, Trevor No Data No Data 867 867 883/867
Potts, Nigel No Data No Data 867 867 883/867
Mcvay, Alex No Data No Data 867 867 884/867
Gauthier, Jed No Data No Data 867 867 884/867
X, Dan No Data No Data 866 866 895/866
Spencer, Chad No Data No Data 864 864 916/804
Devries, Rob No Data No Data 864 864 881/864
Devries, Doug No Data No Data 86


Author: Will Reply #5 Posted: Apr 4 2010 5:10PM

Now the modified "800 base points" without any players deleted out:
Dunn, Christian No Data No Data 1353 1353 1365/801
Edwards, Simon No Data No Data 1246 1246 1246/801
Lawrence, Shane No Data No Data 1228 1228 1248/816
Penner, Roger No Data No Data 1188 1188 1214/816
Stranks, Will No Data No Data 1180 1180 1243/803
Burgardt, Garry No Data No Data 1161 1161 1193/801
McDonald, Tom No Data No Data 1121 1121 1145/817
Wilkins, Ben No Data No Data 1023 1023 1059/800
Kerr, Chris No Data No Data 977 977 1006/800
Luft, Carey No Data No Data 924 924 985/800
Rupertus, Lindsey No Data No Data 918 918 972/800
Myszczyszyn, Tobin No Data No Data 909 909 927/800
Demelo, Ivor No Data No Data 898 898 907/816
Scaife, Darcy No Data No Data 896 896 928/800
So, Albert No Data No Data 895 895 946/801
Trynchuk, Dale No Data No Data 884 884 896/800
Dick, Matt No Data No Data 882 882 902/804
X, Jeff No Data No Data 881 881 894/822
Campbell, Lance No Data No Data 880 880 906/800
Hasiuk, Jody No Data No Data 875 875 881/800
Simeon, Jamie No Data No Data 875 875 926/800
Kippen, Rick No Data No Data 874 874 894/800
Humberstone, Paul No Data No Data 871 871 928/800
Goodman, Eric No Data No Data 871 871 871/812
Karmis, Pete No Data No Data 870 870 882/800
Karmis, Ang No Data No Data 870 870 882/800
Green, James No Data No Data 857 857 872/800
Deeg, Phil No Data No Data 855 855 884/800
Tse, Desmond No Data No Data 853 853 869/800
Spencer, Chad No Data No Data 849 849 897/800
Kelly, Brad No Data No Data 849 849 864/800
Smithson, Justin No Data No Data 835 835 898/800
Ejakovic, Christoff No Data No Data 832 832 854/800
Johnston, Mike No Data No Data 825 825 925/800
Moir, Zak No Data No Data 824 824 864/800
Faulkner, Stephanii No Data No Data 822 822 840/800
Daly, Ritchie No Data No Data 819 819 849/800
Wood, Greg No Data No Data 818 818 881/800
Gibson, katy No Data No Data 816 816 848/800
X, Gerald No Data No Data 811 811 836/800
Wong, Felix No Data No Data 811 811 836/811
Schiebelbein, Karli No Data No Data 810 810 826/800
O''Stream, Don No Data No Data 806 806 826/800
Hopfner, Jordan No Data No Data 806 806 815/800
Volkman, Dallyn No Data No Data 804 804 816/800
x, Mike No Data No Data 804 804 816/800
Nielsen, Shane No Data No Data 804 804 816/800
C, Erek No Data No Data 803 803 816/800
xs, extra No Data No Data 803 803 822/800
Coloma, Mike No Data No Data 802 802 816/802
Bennett, Doug No Data No Data 801 801 816/800
Baayens, Dean No Data No Data 801 801 818/800
Ahn, Dave No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Gakwerere, David No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Farries, Kent No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Tran, Nhu No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Szeto, Nelson No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Andrabe, Richard No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Ginn, Doug No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Cabay, Codie No Data No Data 800 800 831/800
Phuong, Dylan No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
spencer, jay No Data No Data 800 800 814/800
Willick, Barry No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Mcvay, Alex No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Archibald, Ted No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Glubish, Rae Ann No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
y, Steve No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Hood, Jack No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
X, Donald No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Haynes, Tyler No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Popowich, Darrel No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Chan, Willie No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
x, Garret No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Wilkins, Sam No Data No Data 800 800 875/800
Udell, Andy No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Chornohos, Curtis No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
X, Steve No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Kehoe, Eric No Data No Data 800 800 0/0


Author: Will Reply #6 Posted: Apr 4 2010 5:11PM

Continued:
Ginn, Dawnella No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Duarte, Phil No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Devries, Rob No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Duarte, Jacob No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
X, Dan No Data No Data 800 800 815/800
Mothersell, Scott No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Barth, Charlie No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Delorne, Dan No Data No Data 800 800 819/800
Cooke, Drew No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Volkman, Alanna No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
shellay, nathan No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Ramjag, Joseph No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Chanta, Ban No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Wilkins, Ezra No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Styranko, Reid No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Carson, Albert No Data No Data 800 800 828/800
x, Jason No Data No Data 800 800 826/800
Van Melle, Nathan No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Rondeau, Chris No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Ustina, Greg No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Roberts, Noel No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Haynes, Travis No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Cockburn, Becky No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Williams, Craig No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
X, Todd No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Moore, Ryan No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Hewson, Craig No Data No Data 800 800 817/800
Coleman, Moraya No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Learn, Kasper No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Kwak, John No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Nguyen, Dan No Data No Data 800 800 816/800
Wilkins, Carrie No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Dunn, Eric No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
X, Darnel No Data No Data 800 800 827/800
Clark, John No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Sereda, Nikki No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Learn, Jason No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Castillo, Jonathan No Data No Data 800 800 816/800
Rodriguez, Orlando No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Perumal, Ramu No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Botros, Matt No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Jackson, Dan No Data No Data 800 800 814/800
Mayoski, Trevor No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Allen, Greg No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Pauette, Andre No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Fester, David No Data No Data 800 800 816/800
Jordan, Desmond No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Leoppky, Brian No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Lishinman, Jeff No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Phan, Tuan No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Ly, Linda No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Demello, Chris No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Alliyne, Ian No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
x, Joel No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
King, Ryan No Data No Data 800 800 816/800
Lee, Sean No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Siltannin, Jenna No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Burnett, Sean No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Striefel, Nathan No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Brodt, Danny No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
X, Roman No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Wilkins, Isaiah No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Rondeau, Tina No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
x, Ian No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Wilkins, Malachi No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Iannuzzi, Mario No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
X, Lee No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Xs, Steve No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Freznel, Jordan No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Yeoung, James No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Elford, Jason No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Wilson, Tim No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Crawford, Adam No Data No Data 800 800 812/800
Park, Gordon No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Hodinski, Jasmine No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Nielsen, Josh No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Lehman, Blair No Data No Data 800 800 847/800
Potts, Nigel No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
Summerville, Dan No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
DaPonte, Paul No Data No Data 800 800 800/800
X, Lorne No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Wong, Joshua No Data No Data 800 800 0/0
Tavares, Hug


Author: Will Reply #7 Posted: Apr 4 2010 5:12PM

Any thoughts about this? I want to hear from everyone, Pro, Non-pro, people who have never posted before, random lurkers, Darcy, anyone?


Author: what the Reply #8 Posted: Apr 4 2010 5:14PM

the one that has me ranked higher is proabably
the way to go...




Author: Will Reply #9 Posted: Apr 4 2010 5:20PM

for some reason I had a feeling you would post that exact message...


Author: Darcy Reply #10 Posted: Apr 4 2010 8:21PM

I'd like to know why I'm the only one not classified as a pro, non-pro, person who has never posted before or a random lurker.


Also, starting everyone at base point is probably for the best, that way if they start coming out regularly and monitor their point totals they dont have to be discouraged about losing so many points, just proud of winning some.

Also Also, what's the format for this tuesday?


Author: ALBERTs Reply #11 Posted: Apr 4 2010 9:13PM

Agreed with Darcy, keep up the good work Will.


Author: S. Edwards Reply #12 Posted: Apr 4 2010 10:08PM

Not that my opinion ever counts for much, but I would have to agree.


Author: BoozeFoos Reply #13 Posted: Apr 5 2010 4:01PM

I would like to play some money games against the first three people above me in "current points".



Author: Will Reply #14 Posted: Apr 6 2010 1:36AM

I would like to play some money games against the first three people above me in "current points".

I would like to see some of those... My money is on you in any of those Lindsay.

"Not that my opinion ever counts for much, but I would have to agree."

Simon I think I have valued your opinion at least as strongly as anyone elses opinion in all of foosball the entire time I have been doing this. I obviously know that you are knowledgable about this game and I have taken into consideration everything you have ever taught me.... Maybe when I was reffing your game it could have gone differently, but that doesn't mean I dont consider your opinion valid.

"Also Also, what's the format for this tuesday?"

Pro/Am Draw. I posted that on another thread the same time that I started this one... it is only visable from the Edmonton board though, not through Calgary and Saskfoos.

"I'd like to know why I'm the only one not classified as a pro, non-pro, person who has never posted before or a random lurker."

You are not a random lurker... you have posted before... you are not a pro... but you have 910 points so you are not classified as a rookie any more...

Congrats on being bumped up to the "expert" category.



Also... Chris will be playing as a pro for the pro am tomorrow.


Author: BriL Reply #15 Posted: Apr 6 2010 11:34AM

Will, you have the data for the last 3 Alberta tournaments. Can you calculate points for players from other cities using that?


Author: Tobin Reply #16 Posted: Apr 6 2010 2:07PM

I know im a few posts out of the loop here but I think that 800 points should be the starting point for any new player. Also with 800 being the lowest it does not discourage any new players should they not do so well for the first few times they show up to a tuesday night, and the ranking will be as accurate as it can get. Players that are regulars would have more motivation to make it out every tuesday if they want to increase their points. This has all pretty much been said before but just wanted chime in on the subject. Cheers!


Author: Will Reply #17 Posted: Apr 8 2010 11:58PM

Brian - we are working on coming up with a points system for all of our touraments, and will probably try to incorporate the events other people run too. Without going into to much detail I'll leave it open ended and just say we have been talking about this for a while but haven't finalized anything or put anything into action yet


Author: Will Reply #18 Posted: Jun 5 2010 1:12PM

Bump for ivor.


Author: C.A.L. Reply #19 Posted: Jun 5 2010 5:05PM

I like the modified 800 point base representation. It seems more accurate to recent (6 month)local player participation.

My opinions and suggestions below are to improve rating of players and scaling of players in a inviting promotional outlook.

I would suggest listing all players that are outside of Edmonton in their own listing or give them more base or less base depending on their preceived rankinig. ie. Eric Goodman, Tuan, Ang etc. should have a base 1000 pts., Ivor D. or Jeff S. 900 before they play an event and NOT drop below that. These guys are ranked/Pt.rated too low.

Singles and Doubles play are totally two different scales at the lower levels of Beginner/Rookie. Trying to impliement these players into the Regular established player base with one simple say 3 part 800/900/1000 rating will not work in my opinion, like say Pro/AM's without fair handi-caps.

This only really matters when there is going to be some useful promotion for their lower level in singles/doubles/D.Y.P involing these type of New players on a weekly basis.

So points given to newer players has to represent whether they have Any skill at all with say a 500/600/700 understood skill grading.
They can freefall or advance from their given base with no worries but not lower than their fair skill rated starting point.

Then local promotion can openly increase the player base participation with more Pro-Am or D.Y.P.'s WITH handi-caps giving all teams or players winning opportuntities and the new players learning experiences at the same time together in one event.

Presently new players randomly drawn in D.Y.P's come in free 1st time, but keeping them coming out they need a fair handi-cap even in their own lower divisions or they most likely will not see their time spent useful.

Now as far as ranking players regionally for tournments this will need better payouts/prizes to the 7/8 placing in the Open/Pro events to encourage greater participation to begin with.

Some entry fee reduction(s) for out of towners and those outside of greater than 100 miles. Maybe rookies from out of town get greater amount reduced.

The latest Calgary Tournment on June 18-20 could do better by just running Open & Rookie as the main events and having a larger payout to 7/8th -- 11/12th or some such level. Making payouts attractive down to these levels. Maybe a Open-Semi only round-robin events city seeded? A - B sided pools?? Rookie events as normal.

No matter the ranking and fee levels proper Promotion and advertising is needed a couple of months ahead to get the New people/players thinking in a positive outlook about showing up to local tournys in a substained manner.




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